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	<title>Comments on: Do you git it?: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control #ukoer</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Do you git it?: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control Software version control tools like Git have long provided software developers a space to collaboratively work on projects providing an easy way track, contribute and modify code even when offline. Given the features of remixing and branch existing material you’d think it would make the ideal repository for open educational resources (OER). This solution is not without its issues such as confusing terminology and very structured workflows but it’s interesting to see non-coders adopt Git as a place to host their content. This post highlights some existing examples like open bid writing, music and course content and asks should we be Gitting OER. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Do you git it?: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control Software version control tools like Git have long provided software developers a space to collaboratively work on projects providing an easy way track, contribute and modify code even when offline. Given the features of remixing and branch existing material you’d think it would make the ideal repository for open educational resources (OER). This solution is not without its issues such as confusing terminology and very structured workflows but it’s interesting to see non-coders adopt Git as a place to host their content. This post highlights some existing examples like open bid writing, music and course content and asks should we be Gitting OER. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hawksey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Hawksey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@cogdog Riffing, Remix and DIY are all things I can relate to. I think you&#039;re right that the gap between literacies and the tools to make stuff are narrowing and there is an appetite out there for people to make their own mark. No idea how you&#039;d frame it but I&#039;m always looking for interesting stuff to do ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cogdog Riffing, Remix and DIY are all things I can relate to. I think you&#8217;re right that the gap between literacies and the tools to make stuff are narrowing and there is an appetite out there for people to make their own mark. No idea how you&#8217;d frame it but I&#8217;m always looking for interesting stuff to do ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hawksey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Hawksey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the extra links. Its a shame the WordPress/Git is on hold would  have been an interesting project. 

Ditto on the &#039;hmmm&#039;. Looks like your 3 year old hunch might be ready for the big bad world. Something else I came across recently is openstax college http://openstaxcollege.org which is compiling and publishing open textbooks/ebooks. As part of this they are letting anyone edit and republish the existing textbook using the Connexions/Rhaptos Software http://cnx.org/. Haven&#039;t really played with any of these but thought I&#039;d share as the project is generating other interesting stuff like OERPub https://trac.rhaptos.org/trac/rhaptos/wiki/TechnicalDocumentation/Code/Sword

Connexions looks good but looks like you are confined to their environment. A git based solution should give the user more freedom to grab whatever files are in the master, fork or edit and republish.

So please go forth and make it happen ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the extra links. Its a shame the WordPress/Git is on hold would  have been an interesting project. </p>
<p>Ditto on the &#8216;hmmm&#8217;. Looks like your 3 year old hunch might be ready for the big bad world. Something else I came across recently is openstax college <a href="http://openstaxcollege.org" rel="nofollow">http://openstaxcollege.org</a> which is compiling and publishing open textbooks/ebooks. As part of this they are letting anyone edit and republish the existing textbook using the Connexions/Rhaptos Software <a href="http://cnx.org/" rel="nofollow">http://cnx.org/</a>. Haven&#8217;t really played with any of these but thought I&#8217;d share as the project is generating other interesting stuff like OERPub <a href="https://trac.rhaptos.org/trac/rhaptos/wiki/TechnicalDocumentation/Code/Sword" rel="nofollow">https://trac.rhaptos.org/trac/rhaptos/wiki/TechnicalDocumentation/Code/Sword</a></p>
<p>Connexions looks good but looks like you are confined to their environment. A git based solution should give the user more freedom to grab whatever files are in the master, fork or edit and republish.</p>
<p>So please go forth and make it happen ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Joss Winn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joss Winn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes, that book was a nice read, but I found Sennett and Pye more useful for history and concepts. If you find more references, send them my way, please! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, that book was a nice read, but I found Sennett and Pye more useful for history and concepts. If you find more references, send them my way, please! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine (@cogdog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Levine (@cogdog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Martin It&#039;s not about the spreadsheets but the way in which you use them as vehicles to move/rework data. 

@joss It&#039;s a super alpha idea I am writing up now (and I just read your Software Craftmanship post linked from here, it is where I am intending to go). It&#039;s not a course aimed at programmers but people who have drive to have an understanding to be able to manipulate existing code libraries, apis to build things. It came out of the serendipity experience of riffing back on forth on an idea with John Johnston
http://cogdogblog.com/2012/02/27/code-riffing/

I&#039;m thinking of having enough understanding of inputs/outputs to build web tools with jquery, with having a conceptual understanding of using web apis, with being able to manipulate data to visualizations with refine/gephi like Martin and Tony Hirst do. I had thought it was also key to be in an environment like git (which I know actually little of).

It&#039;s vague, but I am seeking ideas on how to frame this, and the work you both do is key inspiration.

On reading, I am just getting about to reading &quot;Shop class as soulcraft: in inquiry into the value of work&quot; that Scott Leslie had recommended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin It&#8217;s not about the spreadsheets but the way in which you use them as vehicles to move/rework data. </p>
<p>@joss It&#8217;s a super alpha idea I am writing up now (and I just read your Software Craftmanship post linked from here, it is where I am intending to go). It&#8217;s not a course aimed at programmers but people who have drive to have an understanding to be able to manipulate existing code libraries, apis to build things. It came out of the serendipity experience of riffing back on forth on an idea with John Johnston<br />
<a href="http://cogdogblog.com/2012/02/27/code-riffing/" rel="nofollow">http://cogdogblog.com/2012/02/27/code-riffing/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of having enough understanding of inputs/outputs to build web tools with jquery, with having a conceptual understanding of using web apis, with being able to manipulate data to visualizations with refine/gephi like Martin and Tony Hirst do. I had thought it was also key to be in an environment like git (which I know actually little of).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s vague, but I am seeking ideas on how to frame this, and the work you both do is key inspiration.</p>
<p>On reading, I am just getting about to reading &#8220;Shop class as soulcraft: in inquiry into the value of work&#8221; that Scott Leslie had recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: Joss Winn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joss Winn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant to link to this, too: http://www.git-legit.org/ It&#039;s git simplified on the commandline, but you can see how such an approach might translate to a GUI application using domain specific language.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to link to this, too: <a href="http://www.git-legit.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.git-legit.org/</a> It&#8217;s git simplified on the commandline, but you can see how such an approach might translate to a GUI application using domain specific language.</p>
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		<title>By: Joss Winn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joss Winn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Alan,

Do tell us more about &#039;Crafting and Computing&#039;; it&#039;s something I&#039;m definitely interested in. Have you read around the use of the term &#039;software craftsmanship&#039;? http://joss.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2012/02/25/learning-a-craft/

All the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alan,</p>
<p>Do tell us more about &#8216;Crafting and Computing&#8217;; it&#8217;s something I&#8217;m definitely interested in. Have you read around the use of the term &#8216;software craftsmanship&#8217;? <a href="http://joss.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2012/02/25/learning-a-craft/" rel="nofollow">http://joss.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2012/02/25/learning-a-craft/</a></p>
<p>All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Joss Winn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joss Winn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m the same Martin. I&#039;m much more comfortable thinking of what we do as Craftsmanship - my dad was a carpenter, furniture restorer and bricklayer and working with him every weekend throughout my teenage years definitely shaped my values, too.

On the use of Git for bid writing, I wrote another bid shortly after the Bebop proposal, where I very consciously set out to write it in public, rather than it being an after-thought. https://github.com/lncd/AIM-project

I let people know early on that I was starting to write it, via a blog post (and Twitter) that became the first rough draft of the bid: http://joss.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2012/03/05/implementing-oauth-2-0/

It was fun writing it but I also enjoyed documenting the writing of it via the commit messages. https://github.com/lncd/AIM-project/commits/master

Of all the bids I&#039;ve written and published openly, this was by far the most transparent from the outset.

On alternative uses of Git, you reminded me a brief exchange I was involved in on the JISC Repositories mailing list in 2009: http://lncn.eu/gs3 

There was also a post recently that brought WordPress and Git together: http://ben.balter.com/2012/02/28/github-for-journalism-what-wordpress-post-forking-could-do-to-editorial-workflows/ Shame he won&#039;t be working on it this summer.

I&#039;d love to build something on Git, or preferably Github, where the APIs are already available. http://developer.github.com/v3/

Hmmmm........ ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the same Martin. I&#8217;m much more comfortable thinking of what we do as Craftsmanship &#8211; my dad was a carpenter, furniture restorer and bricklayer and working with him every weekend throughout my teenage years definitely shaped my values, too.</p>
<p>On the use of Git for bid writing, I wrote another bid shortly after the Bebop proposal, where I very consciously set out to write it in public, rather than it being an after-thought. <a href="https://github.com/lncd/AIM-project" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/lncd/AIM-project</a></p>
<p>I let people know early on that I was starting to write it, via a blog post (and Twitter) that became the first rough draft of the bid: <a href="http://joss.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2012/03/05/implementing-oauth-2-0/" rel="nofollow">http://joss.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2012/03/05/implementing-oauth-2-0/</a></p>
<p>It was fun writing it but I also enjoyed documenting the writing of it via the commit messages. <a href="https://github.com/lncd/AIM-project/commits/master" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/lncd/AIM-project/commits/master</a></p>
<p>Of all the bids I&#8217;ve written and published openly, this was by far the most transparent from the outset.</p>
<p>On alternative uses of Git, you reminded me a brief exchange I was involved in on the JISC Repositories mailing list in 2009: <a href="http://lncn.eu/gs3" rel="nofollow">http://lncn.eu/gs3</a> </p>
<p>There was also a post recently that brought WordPress and Git together: <a href="http://ben.balter.com/2012/02/28/github-for-journalism-what-wordpress-post-forking-could-do-to-editorial-workflows/" rel="nofollow">http://ben.balter.com/2012/02/28/github-for-journalism-what-wordpress-post-forking-could-do-to-editorial-workflows/</a> Shame he won&#8217;t be working on it this summer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to build something on Git, or preferably Github, where the APIs are already available. <a href="http://developer.github.com/v3/" rel="nofollow">http://developer.github.com/v3/</a></p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;.. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hawksey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Hawksey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love it when people take a tool and use it in a way it was never intended for just because it fits with what they want to do.

Joss introduced me to the concept of technological craftsmanship. It&#039;s an idea that sits well with me coming from a line of cabinet/watch makers and I sleep easier at night with the thought I&#039;m somehow I&#039;m continuing it (although I hope I&#039;m not remembered as Master Spreadsheet Maker ;)

Thanks
Martin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when people take a tool and use it in a way it was never intended for just because it fits with what they want to do.</p>
<p>Joss introduced me to the concept of technological craftsmanship. It&#8217;s an idea that sits well with me coming from a line of cabinet/watch makers and I sleep easier at night with the thought I&#8217;m somehow I&#8217;m continuing it (although I hope I&#8217;m not remembered as Master Spreadsheet Maker ;)</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine (@cogdog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Levine (@cogdog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I so git it. This is really timely Martin, as I am contriving a ds106-like course for next year with a nebulous concept of &quot;Crafting and Computing&quot; about using web-thinking and code-ways to create things online (but not as a programmer). This along with your many tools for cranking data through things to find meaning are right up my alley.

I had no idea people were side-purposing Git, it makes a ton of sense.

A long way of saying &quot;Thanks&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so git it. This is really timely Martin, as I am contriving a ds106-like course for next year with a nebulous concept of &#8220;Crafting and Computing&#8221; about using web-thinking and code-ways to create things online (but not as a programmer). This along with your many tools for cranking data through things to find meaning are right up my alley.</p>
<p>I had no idea people were side-purposing Git, it makes a ton of sense.</p>
<p>A long way of saying &#8220;Thanks&#8221;</p>
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